DO NOT USE PAY PAL TO PAY FOR ANYTHING BECAUSE IF YOU BUY AN ITEM WHICH TURNS OUT TO BE STOLEN AS I DID A MOBILE PHONE IN THIS CASE . I LOGGED A CLAIM WITH PAY PAL BUT WAS GIVEN THE EXCUSE THAT BECAUSE THE SELLER HAD LESS THAN 50 FEEDBACK I WAS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY REFUND. THE CROOKED SELLER IS STILL ON E BAY AND I AM SHORT OF 80 POUNDS. PAY PAL WILL TRY EVERY TRICK IN THE BOOK TO AVOID PAYING OUT TO ANYBODY. THEY ARE A DODGY OUTFIT THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I CLOSED MY PAY PAL ACCOUNT. THEN THERE IS E BAY WITH ITS REFUND POLICY THIS IS JUST AS BAD AS PAY PAL THEY ASK YOU FOR PROOF OF AN ITEM NOT AS DESCRIBED BEFORE THEY WILL PAY OUT A PITTANCE USUALLY LESS THAN 10% OF THE ORIGINAL PRICE HOWEVER TO GET YOUR MEASLY AMOUNT OF MONEY E BAY WANT INDEPENDANT TESTS DONE AT YOUR EXPENSE BEFORE THEY WILL PAY OUT. IT SEEMS THAT THE ONLY WAY TO GET YOUR MONEY BACK IS TO BECOME A CROOK YOURSELF AND RIP SOMEBODYELSE OFF BUT AS LONG AS E BAY DO NOT PAY OUT THEY WONT REALLY BOTHER