hi ihave been collecting rolex watches for the last 20 years i had a fake submariner for years at the time icould not afford the real deal as time has went on i have had many real watces through my hands the thing is the fake watches have become better and better so even someone like myself would have to take avery good look to make sure its the real thing istarted with a lower end of the market rolex oyster now i own several a word of advice owning a real rolex is better than money in the bank you can buy realy good second hand ones for hundreds less than anew one you will allways get youre money back on them get a loan buy one its the best investment i have ever made cheers